Medizin Aktuell: One thing can at least be said with certainty: all cosmic findings are made without exception through one’s own insight into the worlds of consciousness beyond deep sleep; and on the way of breaking through our deep sleep, we have to leave behind all that we have learned externally, such as kindergarten knowledge, school knowledge, university knowledge etc. like dead, worthless – almost restricting – ballast.

Burdened with any such knowledge or mental ideas from this world of limited things we teach and learn in our present so-called civilised world, we definitely cannot overcome deep sleep – do I understand you correctly?

Peter Hübner: Yes. That is why I am talking about “breaking through the absolute sound barrier of our so-called civilised world” – which on the whole “lives” on a kind of knowledge, which is largely out to destroy it.
It is impossible to carry something of this narrow-minded mental “junk” or “rubbish” of this so-called civilised world into the highly complex ordered cosmic worlds, lying behind our deep sleep. That is why it is so difficult to get there.

Medizin Aktuell: This probably sounds very hard and uncomfortable for many …

Peter Hübner: Well, it is – but the reality of life in this so-called civilised world also bears incorruptible witness to the correctness of this statement.

But it is absolutely possible the other way round, to carry the findings and the knowledge of these cosmic worlds and above all: their substantial and universal qualities and powers on our return into our so-called civilised world: into our thinking, into our neuro-physiology, into our body, even into our material surroundings.

And as we are tackling this matter under the aspect of modern scientific medicine, which strives for objective knowledge, some components of the things we bring back are especially interesting when we return from these cosmic worlds beyond deep sleep – these are: harmony of life, energy of life, intelligence of life, vitality, happiness, zest for life, breath of life.

In my opinion, these components will play the major part in the scientific medicine of the future, and they will drive out the aspects of external medical manipulation on this side of deep sleep, i.e. all external physical medical exertion of influence – and the use of equipment in medicine.

For, from a cosmic point of view, the present-day medicine of our so-called civilised world quite often resembles the desire of stupid little pubertal juveniles to help the Creator and/or nature “on their way” – as if they had not been able to create healthy humans with their own divine and/or cosmic powers, and so these scientists, utilising approx. 2% of their brain potential, would now have to help get them on the right track.

Beyond the present ideas in science, life as such is a cosmic light phenomenon, and this is – if you penetrate through without “perishing” beforehand in deep sleep – , as perceptible as our sunlight.

A person who does not penetrate through, resembles a person, who indeed is sitting in the light of the sun, but is wearing a pitch-black pair of glasses, which do not let through any sunlight, and who is also shrouded in a thick overall like an astronaut, not letting through any sunlight at all.
He therefore does not experience the sunlight.

And the same goes for the flame of life and the experience of pure life if a human being always gets stuck with his perception in front of the absolute sound barrier of our so-called civilised world, and is held captive in deep sleep, which is merely prepared to release him into his dream consciousness or his relative wakeful consciousness.

Cosmic faculty of perception has been basically given to us by nature, and our dream and the experiences we have during dreaming supply us with plenty of clues to it.
But the natural cosmic worlds remain closed to us if we do not overcome deep sleep – like gates with seven or more seals –, the first five seals concerning the cosmic worlds of our five senses of perception, and two further ones: those of our feeling, as well as our understanding etc.

But if in these seven cosmic abilities, when breaking through our deep sleep, the lights light up at least, we are doubtlessly a whole step further.